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 Post subject: A point to all this?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:59 pm 
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OK first its not a moan. it's a question. This is a hobby to me and I know after about 4 weeks in and reaching 51 hours a day I wont make the 130 hours in 8 months from now. I've exhausted everything I can think of, even read all the tips ( I will not spend real cash on the station on radiomonys behalf with the ruthless axe policy) and exhausted myself. But my serious question, Is there a point to busting a nut to reach targets? Do radionomy pay anymore? Is it a case of just relax and swap over to a new stream just rotating the 1000 upload limit when the axe swings?
Again I'm not moaning just asking what you guys do.


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 Post subject: Re: A point to all this?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:10 pm 
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Without TuneIn, Windows Media Guide and Geo blocking... it's much harder to reach your audience minimums than it used to be when they first started. Not even sure why Radionomy even has a minimum since they don't pay any share of revenue anymore. So it's really about your personal motivation to do this. Go with your passion and do your best, and see what happens. Once you reach 130/hrs per day you'll get listed in other directories as promised by Rad. You've still got time, but it won't happen without effort.


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 Post subject: Re: A point to all this?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:45 pm 
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Hey eleu,

As said before, it takes hard work to make a radio station popular, in any environment. You have the commitment and passion for it, but I believe that you may have to rethink your format. I see you play music from the 50s to today, Metal to Hip-Hop and everything else in between, on top of being mostly requests. I'm not putting you down, but you may do better if you specialize in a more narrow market and be the best in there. I specialize in 70s Jazz-rock and Progressive music, and have an extensively curated library. I also play what I like; don't take many requests ;-). Even the name of your station has to convey a sense of purpose. Fusion 101 says it all in the title.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:05 pm 
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Thank you both. Constructive and to the point. I like that. I'm not to proud to take advice either, keep it coming. I really am interested in what you guys do and what motivates you. Somedays I feel top of the world thinking what a great hobby and work like crazy, Then other days I think hold on, I'm a radionomy cash cow, don't get any acknowledgement, have a mass of restrictions thrust on me and likely be dropped like a t*rd without mercy. Again not moaning here. Just really interested.


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 Post subject: Re: A point to all this?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:55 pm 
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eleu 1;

I understand your passion and desire to program a station with your own vision. As far as cash cow... keep in mind, Radionomy is covering all your "our of pocket" expenses, including licensing, streaming, hosting, etc, which could cost you hundreds monthly depending on your audience size... and even though many things are out of our control, we can at least make the decision that this is worth it based on listener response and personal satisfaction.

Make sure you've defined your audience clearly, so you are not programming too broadly.... and the identity (branding) of your station is consistent with its format (sound). I have found that the one thing that makes Internet Radio unique, is the opportunity to develop a format that appeals to a specific audience, and they can't find your type of format anywhere else.... not too broad, or you will lose those on the fringe of your target. A good example that is the very successful ... is Radio Mozart. http://www.radiomozart.net/ Huge audience.

There is no guarantee that this Radionomy experiment working with independent producers is going to succeed or even continue long-term. There is no other option for those of us wishing to broadcast without spending hard cash every month. There are too many dynamic legal and copyright issues affecting the future of Internet Radio... but we, as producers, can't really control that. Best to focus on doing the best job you can, and let the things go you can't control.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:06 am 
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jazzguy wrote:

Make sure you've defined your audience clearly, so you are not programming too broadly.... and the identity (branding) of your station is consistent with its format (sound). I have found that the one thing that makes Internet Radio unique, is the opportunity to develop a format that appeals to a specific audience, and they can't find your type of format anywhere else.... not too broad, or you will lose those on the fringe of your target. A good example that is the very successful ... is Radio Mozart.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:54 pm 
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eleu1 wrote:
Thank you both. Constructive and to the point. I like that. I'm not to proud to take advice either, keep it coming. I really am interested in what you guys do and what motivates you. Somedays I feel top of the world thinking what a great hobby and work like crazy, Then other days I think hold on, I'm a radionomy cash cow, don't get any acknowledgement, have a mass of restrictions thrust on me and likely be dropped like a t*rd without mercy. Again not moaning here. Just really interested.


Like you said, sometimes we feel great sometimes... we get really down.
I dont write much on the fórum, but I usual read all the comments here. Now it seems very hard to have FAITH in keep alive beyond the 130hrs, but if you think you music, your vision is differente and special.... keep believing!

Try to have a very nice SITE, try to have the best music possible, the best shows, add little things to catch the listeners...
I dont know what is your music direction, but contact blogs, try magizines to add your BANNER... pub your SITE!
Try also to attack on the social networks...
(but keep focus, try to get your music listeners, dont to reach 1M people that dont like your kind of music... its a waste of effort)

Keep doing that... little by little you will get more listeners.. reaching more possible ones too...

I was on the 700hours per week... now I am on 370hours... after the shutdown on the Tunein... but its life!
My radio was never (I never saw it) on the 1 page of Radionomy, like others... but we are getting into the 3year...
Takes time... takes effort :)

In the beginning 5 listeners all day... made me happy... than... 20 listeners, I was delight :)
When I reached the 40... I was in heaven...
But the really fun, is those 4 or 5 that... listen every day and contact you... and ´´live´´ your radio with you!

Now I am under 20 listeners to 40 listeners, and I dont care to reach 60 or 70...
I want just to taste the fun to keep it flowing... ( of couse now, I know my RADIO won THE SPACE and RESPECT) but took time , every day, every week...for 3 years

Like the previous comment, RADIONOMY helps us, not to spend many €€€ so...
I only spend 7€ per month on the webpage :)
(I feel angry about somethings here, but... without RADIONOMY I will not have my Radio... those who have €€€€ to spend can try anothers options)

All the best :) If you need something say so!

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 Post subject: Re: A point to all this?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:05 pm 
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jimenezl and Ivan thank you, I know what you mean about the listeners contacting. Seems my actual presence is doing better than my stats ( radionomy at least shows) I'm having a great time actually chatting with listeners who tell me what I'm playing. Point being If I don't make the 130 I don't care now if I do or not. Ill just rotate the 1000 I am playing with a few additions a day and make a new stream IF note the optimism there the axe falls. I'm hovering between 51 and 49 HPD Seems to be working so far. Months to go yet. But that attitude Ive developed all the stress has gone, Radiomony still makes money out of selling advertising as my station is advertisement worthy and I have a great time with no stress. Its win win. I will try for that 130 hours, Cant change the radio name though. I had jingles made professionally, my only outlay in all this. Guys I thank you and really do appreciate anything you have to add further.


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 Post subject: Re: A point to all this?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:20 am 
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Cant change the radio name though. I had jingles made professionally, my only outlay in all this.


It's unfortunate that Radionomy "owns" the name you gave your radio and you have to change it slightly. But that doesn't mean you have to change your branding - jingles, your own website, etc. So Eleutwo can become Eleu2 Eleu-2 Eleu-Two Eleu-02 etc etc.

One slight problem is that they are very slow to remove the deleted stations from the Shoutcast directory so you can end up with multiple entries, and the others might be playing other programs. But on other directories you can just change the links to the new stream.

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 Post subject: Re: A point to all this?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:52 pm 
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These are very insightful posts. It really does help to remain positive, and grateful too. The branding insights are particularly useful.

Feel free to tune in to my station for radio specific suggestions. I'm approaching the 9 month mark and have reached slightly over 60 hours for an all time high. My twitter feed @juliuswb and ReverbNation (Bushrod) profile(s) seems to generate the most feedback for my station.

I'm poised to start anew soon. Is there a suggested timetable for transitioning to a new station?

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